Comments for Vintage73.comVintage73.com | Vintage73.com http://vintage73.com Faith, Truth and Charity Fri, 17 Feb 2012 02:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 Comment on Video – Re-Imagining Theological Education by Map4jc http://vintage73.com/2011/12/video-re-imagining-theological-education/comment-page-1/#comment-610 Map4jc Fri, 17 Feb 2012 02:50:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?p=694#comment-610 Realize that 3dm is selling their product, their model. Of course they want wide-spread change. I don't mean to sound SO cynical. Is some change needed? Perhaps. Are some seminaries training managers rather than on-mission (I'm not a fan of "missional," given its use, even elevation, in some circles) ministers of the Gospel. I think we need to ensure both solid education and nurturing of mission approach, taking such men as Finney and Osteen as cautionary tales for merely setting supposedly called men loose on people! A reasonable balance including education (as opposed to only "training," which rings of short-term and specific task based; training could be part but not all) from Godly, studied men, ensuring competence with languages, systematic theology, etc., and mentoring in local church setting under Godly pastors (TEs), and association with REs and Deacons, church members and even visitors and attendees, doing the work of a minister and evanglist. I like the models that GPTS has adopted in its approach to theological education for pastors as well as REs and Deacons. I like it better than Re:Train which...trains men quickly to be Acts29/MarsHill shaped pastors. I like that about as much as the mission of the IMB in my former denomination to go plant "Southern Baptist" churches, Biblical or not. Realize that 3dm is selling their product, their model. Of course they want wide-spread change. I don’t mean to sound SO cynical. Is some change needed? Perhaps. Are some seminaries training managers rather than on-mission (I’m not a fan of “missional,” given its use, even elevation, in some circles) ministers of the Gospel. I think we need to ensure both solid education and nurturing of mission approach, taking such men as Finney and Osteen as cautionary tales for merely setting supposedly called men loose on people!
A reasonable balance including education (as opposed to only “training,” which rings of short-term and specific task based; training could be part but not all) from Godly, studied men, ensuring competence with languages, systematic theology, etc., and mentoring in local church setting under Godly pastors (TEs), and association with REs and Deacons, church members and even visitors and attendees, doing the work of a minister and evanglist. I like the models that GPTS has adopted in its approach to theological education for pastors as well as REs and Deacons. I like it better than Re:Train which…trains men quickly to be Acts29/MarsHill shaped pastors. I like that about as much as the mission of the IMB in my former denomination to go plant “Southern Baptist” churches, Biblical or not.

]]> Comment on What the PCA Could Learn from Soma: Recap by Adam Proctor http://vintage73.com/2012/02/what-the-pca-could-learn-from-soma-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-607 Adam Proctor Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:15:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?p=796#comment-607 Exciting stuff ) Exciting stuff )

]]> Comment on About Vintage73 by Anonymous http://vintage73.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-606 Anonymous Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:20:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?page_id=2#comment-606 Geoff, Those guys are legit. I was really encouraged by them. If you ever want to chime in with an article let me know. Geoff, Those guys are legit. I was really encouraged by them. If you ever want to chime in with an article let me know.

]]> Comment on About Vintage73 by Geoff Bradford http://vintage73.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-605 Geoff Bradford Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:53:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?page_id=2#comment-605 sam: just stumbled on this.  Great idea and great content.  Thanks for doing this.  Encouraged to see your connection with Jeff V and the Soma community.  Keep up the good work G sam:
just stumbled on this.  Great idea and great content.  Thanks for doing this.  Encouraged to see your connection with Jeff V and the Soma community.  Keep up the good work
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]]> Comment on What the PCA Could Learn from Soma: Theology by Kenneth Conklin http://vintage73.com/2012/02/what-the-pca-could-learn-from-soma-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-604 Kenneth Conklin Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:52:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?p=764#comment-604 Hmm....I wonder if it may boil down to some Reformed folks being distinctively uncomfortable/embarrassed by Spirit-led/filled folks' activities. There may be some subtle anti-Charismatic or Pentecostal reactions going on.  Hmm….I wonder if it may boil down to some Reformed folks being distinctively uncomfortable/embarrassed by Spirit-led/filled folks’ activities. There may be some subtle anti-Charismatic or Pentecostal reactions going on. 

]]> Comment on What the PCA Could Learn from Soma: Discipleship by Kenneth Conklin http://vintage73.com/2012/02/what-the-pca-could-learn-from-soma-discipleship/comment-page-1/#comment-603 Kenneth Conklin Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:28:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?p=744#comment-603 Sam: thanks for the response, and if Soma does what we only talk about, it sounds good indeed. What about the other stuff? Sam: thanks for the response, and if Soma does what we only talk about, it sounds good indeed. What about the other stuff?

]]> Comment on What the PCA Could Learn from Soma: Theology by Charles Spurgeon http://vintage73.com/2012/02/what-the-pca-could-learn-from-soma-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-602 Charles Spurgeon Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:54:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?p=764#comment-602 if you want a PCA church to add to the list of good theology teaching to adults and toddlers alike, and aware/embrassive of the Holy Spirit..check out Mercy Hill PCA in Glassboro, NJ.. :) if you want a PCA church to add to the list of good theology teaching to adults and toddlers alike, and aware/embrassive of the Holy Spirit..check out Mercy Hill PCA in Glassboro, NJ.. :)

]]> Comment on What the PCA Could Learn from Soma: Discipleship by Anonymous http://vintage73.com/2012/02/what-the-pca-could-learn-from-soma-discipleship/comment-page-1/#comment-601 Anonymous Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:07:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?p=744#comment-601 Kenneth, I wouldn't say Im an expert on everything Soma. But there is a paradigmatic shift from leaders do ministry to members doing ministry. We talk about it. They have done it. Kenneth, I wouldn’t say Im an expert on everything Soma. But there is a paradigmatic shift from leaders do ministry to members doing ministry. We talk about it. They have done it.

]]> Comment on 10 Reasons I’m PCA and in the Acts 29 Network by Rae Whitlock http://vintage73.com/2011/01/10-reasons-im-pca-and-in-the-acts-29-network/comment-page-1/#comment-600 Rae Whitlock Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:48:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?p=300#comment-600 Hi, "Guest." I'm pretty confident that neither the PCA nor A29 is Joe's master. That position is filled by Jesus Christ. Hi, “Guest.” I’m pretty confident that neither the PCA nor A29 is Joe’s master. That position is filled by Jesus Christ.

]]> Comment on 10 Reasons I’m PCA and in the Acts 29 Network by Guest http://vintage73.com/2011/01/10-reasons-im-pca-and-in-the-acts-29-network/comment-page-1/#comment-599 Guest Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:40:00 +0000 http://vintage73.com/?p=300#comment-599 "I'm PCA and in the Acts 29 Network." No one can serve two masters... http://thewartburgwatch.com/2012/01/16/mark-driscoll-should-step-down-and-acts-29-churches-should-step-away/ “I’m PCA and in the Acts 29 Network.”

No one can serve two masters…

http://thewartburgwatch.com/2012/01/16/mark-driscoll-should-step-down-and-acts-29-churches-should-step-away/

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